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Nick C. - Philadelphia, PA
| | Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 1:44 pm: | |
I loved the Baked Beans which I would mix in some Mustard from the Condiment Lazy Susan! My other favorites were the following, Beef Pot Pie, Salisbury Steak, Chopped Sirloin Steak, the big Fish Cakes. I was just given your book for Xmas which I am enjoying immensely, but I sure wish you had included those recipes also! ARE THEY AVAILABLE ANYWHERE!!"
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Marianne
| | Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 1:45 pm: | |
As you know there are recipes in the book and we are always on the lookout for additional ones. (Perhaps we'll compile them in another book?) As yet we have not found the one for Salisbury Steak. |
david kenny
| | Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 4:23 am: | |
Attached is a review I placed on Amazon.com with respect to the book. I wanted to use the amazon.com location to disseminate a recipe for Horn & Hardart's Macaroni and Cheese. I believe that this is the authentic recipe. I hope to see you April 12 at the Museum of the City of New York. Excellent book.
Amazon.com review.
11 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
The Legacy of Horn & Hardart, January 12, 2003
Reviewer: david kenny (see more about me) from New York
This is an excellent, well wri
tten, and for the most part accurate picture of Horn & Hardart Automats, and their significant impact on the culinary habits of many its customers right up to its demise in New York in the early 1980's and its retrenchment to Philadelphia during that time period. What is inaccurate, is the representation that the last real company owned Automat, located at Third Avenue and 42nd Street closed in 1991. True, there was an entity operating under the trade name of Horn & Hardart at that location until 1991, but the restaurant was only a licensing arrangement, and the food served in the restaurant, such as Macaroni & Cheese, etc. were not the true Horn & Hardart recipies. The real Horn & Hardart recipies were available until 1991 at the only remaining Horn & Hardart Baking Company store, which was located in the Bala Cynward Shopping Center, as accurately described in the book as the last remaining Horn & Hardart location. Also, the recipies in the book, or at least the Macaroni and Cheese recipie, appears not to be authentic. Although the co-author, Marianne Hardart credits a nutritionist will assistance with the recipie, it appears that the recipie is not truly authentic, insofar key ingredients, such as crushed tomatoes and light cream are not included in the recipie. A much better recipie for Horn and Hardart's Macaroni and Cheese is as follows:
MACARONI AND CHEESE
1lb. Ziti Rigati 1/8 tsp. Red Pepper
6Tbs. Flour 1/8 tsp. White Pepper
6 Tbs. Butter 4Tbs. Light Cream
6 C. Milk 3C. Grated Sharp Cheddar Cheese
2 tsp. Salt 1C. Crushed Tomatoes
2 tsp. Sugar
Boil ziti until barely cooked. Drain and set aside.
In a medium saucepan, melt the butter over low heat, blend in flour and cook 2 minutes.
Beat in the milk, then the cream and cook over medium heat, stirring constantly, until the mixture comes to a boil and thickens. Remove from heat and cool slightly.
Stir in the cheese until melted, then add the tomatoes, salt, sugar and two peppers.
Add cheese mixture to the ziti.
Pour into a baking pan and bake in a preheated 400* oven until top browns and bubbles.
**To Freeze: Pour into aluminum pans, seal and place in freezer. DO NOT BAKE BEFORE FREEZING.
**To Bake Frozen Macaroni and Cheese: Allow to defrost before baking. Uncover and place in 400* oven and bake until top is brown and bubbling.
I had hoped that this book, which had promised to include the "secret" Horn & Hardart recipies, which were under tight family control, would have been the actual "secret" recipies. However, despite these disappointments, this is an excellent book that gives a detailed history of an American Institution.
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Richard Marin
| | Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 8:11 pm: | |
How about the recipe for Horn & Hardart Spaghetti? I bought the book hoping it would be in it. Thanks. |
Barry Meyer
| | Posted on Monday, May 31, 2004 - 10:43 am: | |
Thank your for posting this mac and cheese recipe. I am going to make it today! I used to go to the automat with my father as a kid, and the mac and cheese was a staple for me. I loved it. Over the years I have stopped in to H & H locations (I'm no longer in NY)and talked to some "oldtimers" about where to get the recipe, but no one could help me. It's funny how we hold on to certain childhood memories and hold them in the highest esteem. It's unfortunate that when we recreate a dish even according to the recipe, it often does not seem the same. However, it is not the dish that has changed, rather we have evolved, in both our tastes and preferences. I'm hoping the mac and cheese (and I) are the same! |
Marie
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 4:34 pm: | |
To Nick C. in Philly- Horn & Hardart's Baked Bean recipe is posted on the web site "Recipe Source" |
Alice Alley
| | Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 9:40 am: | |
I remember Horn & Hardart Automat in New York City. I believe it was just down from the large Calvary Baptist Church where we would go. My missionary Aunt for Charleston ,W. Va. would stay with us on Long Island, L.I.on her vacation and take me to Calvary Church and then to Horn & Hardart for lunch. How thrilling that was. I have a fork with Horn & Hardart Baking Company on it that I bought at a flea market in Buffalo, NY. I wonder if I had ever used that fork years ago? Crazier things have happened. I would love to hear from some of you. Alice |
neptunenancy
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 12:19 pm: | |
I've been looking for the recipe for the little orange cakes Horn & Hardart used to sell. They were shaped like tapered cylinders with a flat top. They were coated with a hard orange glaze that had little pieces of orange in them. My grandparents would send them from NYC when I was a child. My mom & I would love to be able to taste them once again! |
judy walsh
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 8:42 pm: | |
I've been looking everywhere for the recipe for the fish cakes and the spaghetti recipes. Are they out there |
kmtr
| | Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 5:33 pm: | |
does anyone remember the applesauce cake sold in the stores...i would love that receipe.... |
Jackie
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 3:11 pm: | |
I have been looking for a recipe for Horn & Hardart's fish cakes. Is this recipe available anywhere? |
Jesse Samuels
| | Posted on Friday, August 04, 2006 - 6:23 am: | |
I have never found a meringue like the one that was on the H&H Lemon Meringue pie. The slightly stiff consistency and taste were the best. Anyone know how to make a meringue like that? |
Lorraine Dunfee
| | Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 10:28 pm: | |
I remember my mother bringing home a container of Horn & Hardart spaghetti every Friday night. It was like no other! Can I get that recipe anywhere? |
Barry Vincent
| | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 8:12 pm: | |
Codfish cakes recipe?? Can anyone help me? I have a H&H mac & Cheese recipe which I have made that tastes authentic Recipe is from, New York Cookbook by Molly O'Neil. They have H& H Baked Beans. WE want to have a H&H night. Need codfish cake recipe! |
sheffield lawrence
| | Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 4:12 pm: | |
I grew up in NYC now living in North Carolina and
I think the best butter cookies on the planet were made by
Horn and Hardart Is there any way to get these ever again? |
Sibby Thomas
| | Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 9:13 am: | |
When I moved to the Philadelphia area, I coudn't wait to try out H&H! I loved their creamed spinach and vegetable soup. Anyone have the recipes? Please, please??? |
david kenny
| | Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 11:17 am: | |
AMENDED RECIPE FOR HORN & HARDART MACARONI AND CHEESE. PLEASE NOTE THE CHANGE, FROM 1 LB. OF ZITI RIGATI TO 3/4 LB. OF ZITI RIGATI
By the way, if you go to theautomat.net
I have placed a copy of a recipe for Horn & Hardart's Macaroni and Cheese,
which I have attached here for your convenience, with one change. In my
original submission, I erroneously indicated 1 pound of Ziti Rigati, instead
of the correct amount, which is 3/4 pound. You have the corrected version,
below. The basic difference between this recipe and some others that you
may have seen on the internet, is that the attached uses more milk, and less
Ziti Rigati, to make a much larger amount of sauce in relationship to the
Ziti Rigati.
A much better recipe for Horn and Hardart's Macaroni and Cheese is as follows:
MACARONI AND CHEESE
3/4 lb. Ziti Rigati
1/8 tsp. Red Pepper
6 Tbs. Flour
1/8 tsp. White Pepper
6 Tbs. Butter
4 Tbs. Light Cream
6 C. Milk
3 C. Grated Sharp Cheddar Cheese
2 tsp. Salt
1 C. Crushed Tomatoes
2 tsp. Sugar
Boil ziti until barely cooked. Drain and set aside.
In a medium saucepan, melt the butter over low heat, blend in flour and
cook 2 minutes.
Beat in the milk, then the cream and cook over medium heat, stirring
constantly, until the mixture comes to a boil and thickens. Remove from
heat and cool slightly.
Stir in the cheese until melted, then add the tomatoes, salt, sugar and
two peppers.
Add cheese mixture to the ziti.
Pour into a baking pan and bake in a preheated 400* oven until top browns
and bubbles.
**To Freeze: Pour into aluminum pans, seal and place in freezer. DO NOT
BAKE BEFORE FREEZING.
**To Bake Frozen Macaroni and Cheese: Allow to defrost before baking.
Uncover and place in 400* oven and bake until top is brown and bubbling.
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Mary Cleveland
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 9:51 pm: | |
As kids, my Uncle Barney would always bring us the Corn Meal Cakes from H&H. When I tested to go to Nursing School in Philly, my Uncle took me to Horn and Hardart's, a treat for a kid from NJ. I loved it!!! That was 1975. Uncle Barney died shortly after that. I still remember the taste of those Corn Meal cakes. Anyone have a recipe or anyway I can get the recipe or those corn meal cakes. I remember they did sell them in boxes of 4 or six. We gobbled them up as kids. It will bring back a world of love and memories. Thanks, Mary C
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Mickie Kreszswocl
| | Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 2:07 pm: | |
Orginally from Philadelphia, my brother now (61) was in love with Horn and Hardart mustard. I would love to suprise him with a great taste of the old mustard, he still talkes about. Thanks, Mickie k |
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